msrewind: ((o) panic)
msrewind ([personal profile] msrewind) wrote in [community profile] peterverse2016-05-07 12:38 am

lung, meet rewind

She gets the note just before lunch. She's in the PHQ in less than twenty minutes, then she knocks on Piggot's door politely.
thinkering: (h ~ thinker)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, it has to be bot-producible."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"By the way, have you ever tested that? Are bot-made things not tinker-cursed?"
thinkering: (f ~ cape)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
"I avoid having them make much," she says. "For reasons. I don't think so, though, based on very small tests."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
"You don't think they're tinker-cursed or you don't think they're not?"
thinkering: (h ~ thinker)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think they are not cursed. The bots don't run on instinct the way I do; which means the prototype doesn't always work because I'll have an instinct mid-build and they go with the original design; but if it works so will the next one and they don't seem to - draw on my power as much, when I maintain stuff they made."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Oh, that's... interesting. And very, very exploitable."
thinkering: (b ~ blaster)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yep."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"Do they have to come up with the design, or can they just do something you designed, or a compromise...?"
thinkering: (h ~ thinker)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"They can do my simple designs. The complicated ones seem to work only with instinct operative during the build."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
"...simple? What counts as simple, even?" he laughs.
thinkering: (Default)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
She giggles. "No, well, Tinker bullshit. It's good at tools, custom welders and stuff! It can take my pseudocode flowcharts and turn them into bug-free programs."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
"Does it use the same programming language you do?"
thinkering: (h ~ thinker)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, although it can convert things into standard ones long as they're Turing-complete and meet one or two other criteria. Nasty efficiency cost, but sometimes you gotta make sacrifices for compatibility."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
"Or human readability in some cases."
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[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"That would only apply if I were open-sourcing, which I approve of philosophically but have a hard time with practically being a Tinker and not a regular engineer."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah. At some point I kinda wanna see if I can even begin to wrap my head around it."
thinkering: (f ~ cape)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"Do you even know any programming?"

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"Basic concepts? Some computability theory and stuff, math is fun, no actual languages."
thinkering: (c ~ trump)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"Well, you can have a look if you want but I don't think on that background you'll get anywhere."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"Would I get anywhere if I learned anything? Like, say, Java, or something."
thinkering: (f ~ cape)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"It'd give you a loose idea of what various operators are likely to be."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
"I might do that for fun, then. Shouldn't be hard."
Edited 2016-05-14 19:25 (UTC)
thinkering: (c ~ trump)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"Enjoy."

[personal profile] mrglam 2016-05-14 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"I probably will! I don't suppose you have any pointers?"
thinkering: (e ~ mover)

[personal profile] thinkering 2016-05-14 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"Not really, I never conventionally studied the stuff."

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