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mswoods ([personal profile] mswoods) wrote in [community profile] peterverse2016-01-16 04:39 pm

alchemical blurb

The following day, Sadde has Transfiguration in the morning.

She is all over it at lunch.

"Okay, so, Transfig is just about the coolest thing," she says first thing to the Ravenclaws as soon as she sits at the table.
chanuphis: (d ~ chocolate frog)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Delicious dinner.

Inedible books.
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[personal profile] peterxy 2016-01-17 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, those things!

The books on Flamel seem completely useless on the "figure out why he up and died" front.

However, they do name the more general field of study and passion of the guy: Alchemy.
chanuphis: (f ~ gryffindor)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems, from an inspection of alchemy books, that the Philosopher's Stone has generally been more widely sought-after than the Panacea. Since only one guy made that one, it's possible the Panacea is actually easier... Are there actual instructions anywhere?
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[personal profile] peterxy 2016-01-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Yes there are!

...several sets of them. In fact, no two authors seem to agree on one. There seems to be a common... theme to their exploits, but this theme isn't really explained in any of those books, it's kinda taken for granted.

Perhaps they should grab introductory books on Alchemy?
chanuphis: (e ~ chimera)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That certainly sounds interesting to Miranda right now.
mrwoods: ((k) curious)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds terribly interesting to Sadde as well!
msmaxwell: ((f) point out)

[personal profile] msmaxwell 2016-01-17 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Willow has mostly checked out, she has decided she should focus on studying the stuff she's actually failing at in class rather than theoretical research for the future.
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[personal profile] peterxy 2016-01-17 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Introductory texts are read!

So, Alchemy is similar to Potioneering, but there are some fundamental differences. Most of the steps are more symbolic than anything, with ingredients being used for their memetic properties rather than magical ones. It also includes things like steps that are apparently useless, such as Vanishing an ingredient after crushing it in the mortar in order to prep it, and it deals with more minerals and higher temperatures than standard Potioneering.
chanuphis: (g ~ hat)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That is very interesting. And does seem like the sort of thing that mostly would be left to upper years because the firsties would take one look at "crush, then vanish, ingredient" and skip the step altogether; it's bad enough in Potions where they dice when they should mince and squeeze when they should wring. But if this is just plain how alchemy works Miranda can accept that and kinda wants to try it.
mrwoods: ((g) raised eyebrow)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadde wants to try it as well! But he's not so sure that alone would be a good reason not to allow young students to practice it (not that magical society has the most reasonable or sensible rules). Are there perhaps unwanted side effects or particularly dangerous consequences for failure?
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[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the high temperatures are kind of a big deal. The wandwork is beyond most first years and many second years; Miranda can't cast a Vanishing Charm yet. And sometimes final products look exactly right but are in fact total disasters and you can't tell until you try them.
mrwoods: ((f) question)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, yes, those sound like disastrous enough effects to justify not teaching it to firsties.

Still, it sounds very interesting and promising!
chanuphis: (f ~ gryffindor)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It really does!

"I wonder if Professor Slughorn would help us do an alchemy independent study early."
mrwoods: ((i) pursed lips)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, we should ask him."

Pause.

"Maybe you, the bright promising Ravenclaw student, should be the one to talk to him, instead of troublemaker-in-the-making Slytherin me."
chanuphis: (g ~ hat)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"He's your head of house," Miranda points out. "But if you want me to ask first I will."
mrwoods: ((d) smirk)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, which means he's the likeliest Professor other than Spukhafte herself to have heard of my incident today and of the fact that I refused to give names."
chanuphis: (d ~ chocolate frog)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"Okay, I'll ask."
mrwoods: ((a) laughter)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
He grins. "Thanks!"

He looks around at the books they've collected.

"Maybe we should grab these just in case he says no anyway."
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[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"I want this one first," she says as she grabs Alchemical Metaphor.
mrwoods: ((e) shrug)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
"Alright, I'll take this one," he says, picking up The Alchemist's Handbook.
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[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And they check their books out and Miranda goes and talks to Slughorn.

Next morning at breakfast: "He says if I and my unspecified friend do really well in Potions all year he will consider a tutorial next year."
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[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
"Of course," he sighs. "Well, I guess we won't be able to solve death and then take over the world before twelve, so we probably won't be as famous as Harry Potter."
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[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"If we take over the whole world we can probably be more famous than he is outside Britain."
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[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
"I suppose," he concedes.
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[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's a good thing Potions doesn't seem that hard."

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