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mswoods ([personal profile] mswoods) wrote in [community profile] peterverse2016-01-16 04:39 pm

alchemical blurb

The following day, Sadde has Transfiguration in the morning.

She is all over it at lunch.

"Okay, so, Transfig is just about the coolest thing," she says first thing to the Ravenclaws as soon as she sits at the table.
chanuphis: (i ~ pronunciation)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm glad you happened to like the set of jinxes he picked," remarks Miranda.
mrwoods: ((d) smirk)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
He giggles. "Well, I think he only meant to turn me upside down, but when I wasn't suitably upset to his tastes he langlocked me, and when even that didn't help he said 'Well if you find this so funny you won't mind this' and that's when he cast the laughing jinx. He eventually got bored that I wasn't begging to be let down and left, which in retrospect maybe wasn't a very good idea but then again I was upside down, unable to talk, and giggling helplessly."
chanuphis: (h ~ the owly)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"Your sense of humor is very strange."
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[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"Thanks!" he says brightly. "There was one other thing I thought might interest you in that book."
mrwoods: ((f) question)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"Apparently there's another theoretical thing like the Stone except this one cures all illnesses, called the Panacea. No one's ever made one, but it seems to be one of those things most think is possible except they haven't found out exactly how to do it. Kinda the same vibe the Philosopher's Stone had in the 1200s."
chanuphis: (g ~ hat)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"Does the Elixir of Life not also do that?"
mrwoods: ((i) pursed lips)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
He shakes his head. "No, it only makes aging not happen."
chanuphis: (f ~ gryffindor)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"So you'd need both of them to live particularly forever. Maybe the Stone guy was sick and he just wanted it to sound good."
msmaxwell: ((g) curious)

[personal profile] msmaxwell 2016-01-17 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
"Hm, is he likely to have caught any diseases on his 666th year of life that he hadn't ever caught before and that no magic could cure ever?"
chanuphis: (g ~ hat)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"There are incurable diseases. They're not very common but they exist, and it could have taken that long for him to get one, I don't think one in five wixen eventually gets something that bad so it must be uncommon enough."
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[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"In any case, that sounds like a worthwhile project!" he says cheerfully.

Presently they have finished picking all that stuff up. They can:
a) go to the library grab books on Flamel
b) go get dinner
c) a then b
d) b then a
e) something else
chanuphis: (h ~ the owly)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Miranda did not finish eating and votes plan D.
mrwoods: ((f) question)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The other two concur!

They go to the Great Hall.
chanuphis: (d ~ chocolate frog)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Delicious dinner.

Inedible books.
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[personal profile] peterxy 2016-01-17 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, those things!

The books on Flamel seem completely useless on the "figure out why he up and died" front.

However, they do name the more general field of study and passion of the guy: Alchemy.
chanuphis: (f ~ gryffindor)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems, from an inspection of alchemy books, that the Philosopher's Stone has generally been more widely sought-after than the Panacea. Since only one guy made that one, it's possible the Panacea is actually easier... Are there actual instructions anywhere?
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[personal profile] peterxy 2016-01-17 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Yes there are!

...several sets of them. In fact, no two authors seem to agree on one. There seems to be a common... theme to their exploits, but this theme isn't really explained in any of those books, it's kinda taken for granted.

Perhaps they should grab introductory books on Alchemy?
chanuphis: (e ~ chimera)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That certainly sounds interesting to Miranda right now.
mrwoods: ((k) curious)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds terribly interesting to Sadde as well!
msmaxwell: ((f) point out)

[personal profile] msmaxwell 2016-01-17 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Willow has mostly checked out, she has decided she should focus on studying the stuff she's actually failing at in class rather than theoretical research for the future.
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[personal profile] peterxy 2016-01-17 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Introductory texts are read!

So, Alchemy is similar to Potioneering, but there are some fundamental differences. Most of the steps are more symbolic than anything, with ingredients being used for their memetic properties rather than magical ones. It also includes things like steps that are apparently useless, such as Vanishing an ingredient after crushing it in the mortar in order to prep it, and it deals with more minerals and higher temperatures than standard Potioneering.
chanuphis: (g ~ hat)

[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That is very interesting. And does seem like the sort of thing that mostly would be left to upper years because the firsties would take one look at "crush, then vanish, ingredient" and skip the step altogether; it's bad enough in Potions where they dice when they should mince and squeeze when they should wring. But if this is just plain how alchemy works Miranda can accept that and kinda wants to try it.
mrwoods: ((g) raised eyebrow)

[personal profile] mrwoods 2016-01-17 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadde wants to try it as well! But he's not so sure that alone would be a good reason not to allow young students to practice it (not that magical society has the most reasonable or sensible rules). Are there perhaps unwanted side effects or particularly dangerous consequences for failure?
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[personal profile] chanuphis 2016-01-17 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the high temperatures are kind of a big deal. The wandwork is beyond most first years and many second years; Miranda can't cast a Vanishing Charm yet. And sometimes final products look exactly right but are in fact total disasters and you can't tell until you try them.

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