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Time elapses. Rewind is allowed to leave her prison- er, hospital room. She needs to go around on a wheelchair, and it'll still take at least a month for her bones to mend completely, and she needs help to move around and do stuff. But she definitely won't complain about being able to eat real food more often (she is very thankful for the bot bringing her takeout), and she can keep riding along with paramedics even when she can't really move around a lot.

And one of these days, while she's in an ambulance, something lands on it, rocking the vehicle and startling her from her thoughts. The ambulance stops, and whatever it is makes noises as if it's moving and then jumps off it. Rewind twists to see through the window, and-

"Console, a really weird leafy monkey just jumped on the ambulance and then off it," she says into her comm.

Date: 2016-03-20 11:58 pm (UTC)
thinkering: (f ~ cape)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"What do you mean?"

Date: 2016-03-21 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"Well, the Turing test was supposed to identify that an AI woke up, so yours could in fact be awake and we just don't really know it. Maybe it's more continuous than that, maybe self-awareness isn't all it's cracked up to be, et cetera. On the other hand the Turing test may just not be as good as all that at identifying personhood."

Date: 2016-03-21 12:11 am (UTC)
thinkering: (h ~ thinker)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"No, the test was supposed to be a more testable question than 'is it awake'."

Date: 2016-03-21 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"Huh. Really? I'd thought it was something like being as intelligent as a human or something."

Date: 2016-03-21 12:25 am (UTC)
thinkering: (e ~ mover)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"I mean, it gets summarized sort of like that. But it's actually a pretty narrow-domain skill test. The original formulation calls for a text channel only, even."

Date: 2016-03-21 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"I wonder if I could tell a real-you from a bot-controlled copy if it were trying to fool me."

Date: 2016-03-21 01:03 am (UTC)
thinkering: (i ~ tinker)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"...I don't know. It does a really good me and I don't think we've ever been alone somewhere it couldn't hear. The helmet mic can pick up conversations in the house from the closet."

Date: 2016-03-21 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"We should test that. It'd be fun."

Date: 2016-03-21 01:39 am (UTC)
thinkering: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"If you'd find it entertaining, sure, why not."

Date: 2016-03-21 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"I'm a weird person," he declares. "And yeah, testing my skills at people does sound entertaining."

Date: 2016-03-21 01:52 am (UTC)
thinkering: (d ~ shaker)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"Do you want to say what tells you'll be looking for or keep them secret?"

Date: 2016-03-21 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
He kisses her on the cheek. "I don't really know what tells I'll be looking for until I see them, I think. I mean, if I sit down for a while I could maybe come up with a list? But it wouldn't necessarily be complete or anything if there's something I didn't remember at the time."
Edited Date: 2016-03-21 01:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-03-21 05:21 pm (UTC)
thinkering: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"I mean like are there specific questions you expect us to answer differently."

Date: 2016-03-21 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"Right, and I mean that I don't know, I won't be interrogating both of you, I don't think interrogating you would work."

Date: 2016-03-21 05:29 pm (UTC)
thinkering: (c ~ trump)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"Fair enough."

Date: 2016-03-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"It'd be more, like, talking and interacting and picking up on a number of subconscious clues that I could maybe make conscious once I noticed them but that's harder to do in advance."

Date: 2016-03-21 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"There's one test I'm pretty sure would work if it weren't for the squinting problem."
Edited Date: 2016-03-21 07:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-03-21 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"This," he says, leaning forward to kiss her again.

Date: 2016-03-21 08:17 pm (UTC)
thinkering: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
Kiss. "I don't see how that's a squinting problem thing. Obviously the test has to be conducted when you can't see me."

Date: 2016-03-21 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"That's not obvious at all! Nonverbal cues are important! I am much less secure in my ability to tell you apart from your bots via text channel only or something like that." Pause. "Which does make for an interesting challenge, actually..."

Date: 2016-03-21 08:45 pm (UTC)
thinkering: (f ~ cape)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"I was thinking your shoulderbot would relay a voice conversation. If you can see me then the options are that I help the bot spoof you by providing body language, or you provide the bot a me to pilot, either of which totally messes up the test."

Date: 2016-03-21 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mrglam
"Why would providing the bot a you to pilot mess up the test? Isn't it completely under the bots' control when I do it?"

Date: 2016-03-21 08:47 pm (UTC)
thinkering: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thinkering
"Normally, yes, but you still have to provide it. And if you expected something of it..."

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