have the light of day obscured

[msglam]

You guys captured Purity?

Comments

[first_and_final]

It's still worth apologizing for on its own, by most people's standards. At least when the people involved are Aluvai. Do capes who hospitalize each other just go about their business afterward with no hard feelings?

[msglam]

No more hard feelings than otherwise, more or less. In fact, if a cape who hospitalized another came back to apologize I'm pretty sure the other would assume that was taunting and there'd be more hard feelings.

[first_and_final]

That seems stupid.

[msglam]

Well, think about it from her perspective. Someone just literally almost killed her, and then they go and say, 'I'm so sorry I was powerful enough to drop you in one hit,' not bound to help, yeah? And of course you won't phrase it like that but capes are selected for liking conflict and drama.

[first_and_final]

Seems like a cultural difference, then. If I was almost killed and woke up in the hospital and the person who did it had the capacity to visit me and apologize but didn't, I'd be tempted to send a strongly worded letter, depending how I felt about the incident. If they did show up, I'd expect to be able to tell the difference between gloating and a sincere apology. And even gloating I might accept if it came with good-faith observation of the principles of reconciliation.

[msglam]

That's probably true among normal people anyway. It's just, capes.

[first_and_final]

I still would prefer to at least try reconciliation. Capes can't be that bad, at least not unfailingly. My teammates are capes and they mostly aren't.

[msglam]

If you say so. I mean, they did go through horribly traumatic experiences to get powers, and then went ahead to join an organization dedicated to basically fighting other people.

[first_and_final]

Hasn't anyone tried being nice to villains? They haven't, have they.

[msglam]

Define 'being nice to villains'...? Most interactions with them seem to follow the general script of "Hey, you, stop doing that illegal thing you're doing!" "Make me!" *fight*

[first_and_final]

Finding out why they are doing illegal things. Encouraging them to pursue alternate forms of income/entertainment/etc. I can't be the only person who's thought of this. Maybe everyone else was too cynical. Or picked the wrong villain to befriend and got themselves killed.

[msglam]

You'd have to actually get one to stay still and listen to you. You can't just come up to one and talk because secret lairs, and when you do manage to talk you're still aligned on opposite sides so they don't want to listen. That said, there have been some mysterious villain disappearances followed by mysterious hero appearances that had suspiciously similar powersets to the disappeared villain's. Also yes to being too cynical and probably to getting themselves killed.

[first_and_final]

I would absolutely do this exact thing if I hadn't just spent my first month as a Ward pissing off successively more powerful and highly placed members of the biggest local villain organization. I mean, they're E88, so that doesn't necessarily burn any bridges with anyone who isn't a racist, but it does sort of set me up a public reputation that would get in my way if I tried to come over all diplomatic on somebody.

[msglam]

Yup, you are correct. Also homophobic and transphobic, don't forget those things, if they found out you were bi they'd be even more annoyed.

[first_and_final]

Yes, I was oversimplifying. I'm actually keeping that in mind in case it's ever tactically useful for them to suddenly want to kill me more than they already do.

[msglam]

What, are you gonna shout 'By the way I'm bi!' in the middle of a battle?

[first_and_final]

I'd find a way to be slightly more subtle about it than that, but yes, potentially.

[msglam]

Like how?

[first_and_final]

I don't know, it would depend on what opportunities I saw. I'm a pretty clever speaker, though, I'm sure I could come up with something less blatant than "Hello! I am a bisexual!"

[msglam]

A bisexual. That sounds so funny in my head.

[first_and_final]

It was meant to!

[msglam]

I keep imagining the reactions, you arriving with your hands on your waist all superhero style announcing, "I am a bisexual!" and the E88 just looking at you, unsure of what to do, looking at each other in confusion.

[first_and_final]

Perfect.

[msglam]

I mean, realistically they'd take the opportunity of you stopping to talk to attack or something.

[first_and_final]

Not necessarily a bad thing. In any situation where I'm using this option I already want them to attack me.